Lebanese Jester

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My take on Palestinians civil rights in Lebanon.

Before you go any further in your reading, allow me in all modesty to point out to you once again my (few) readers the fact that I do not adhere to any political party; and moreover I am for the harsh prosecution of all our (past and present) political leaders.
Having said that, and keeping in mind that the bloggosphere has been busing lately (after a long period of silence) with two main topics which somehow are related; One that of breaking the Israeli embargo on Gaza, and second, that of Walid Beyk (imminent) proposal for Palestinian (refuges in Lebanon) human and civil rights.
I have read many articles about the later subject and participated (shyly, in order not to offend) in some “web” debates, and still (as a human) I could not be swayed.
So here is my view on this particular “hot” topic, regardless of what I think of Walid Beyk.

Yes every single human being has the right to a decent life, to have his basic rights protected, access to basic medical care, schooling, a roof over his head, to live with dignity, to be able to work and be a “constructive” part of society..etc.
BUT:
In order to enjoy and be given such rights a person should abide by certain rules, especially when he is a host in a foreign land (to say the least and not use the term “refugee”).
The Palestinian problem was not caused by Lebanon, and it was not the Lebanese who deprived the Palestinians from their homeland; on the contrary, Lebanon (albeit forcibly) not only accepted a big influx of refugees, but (wrongly) signed the Cairo treaty giving Yasser Arafat and his group of thugs a free hand not only to cause mayhem, but also (at a certain point in time) try to establish the state of Palestine within the Lebanese borders.

No I won’t join; nor would I root for any flotilla trying to break the siege of Gaza, for according to me those who voted for a (so called) terrorist governance knew what they were getting themselves into. Why should I help people who are not only divided amongst themselves, but people who tried to take over my country and contributed greatly to the 180,000 dead during our 15 years of war?
Before you get on your high horses and burn me to the stake, allow me to remind you of a sample of what took place in Lebanon between 1975 and 1982 (in order to keep this post relatively readable) at the hands of those refugees which some of our leaders are now claiming to be oppressed by their host country.

1)May 20, 1975
Five people were killed and 24 were wounded in Dekwaneh
Violent confrontations opposed Palestinians from the Tell El Zaatar camp and Phalange Party members. Businesses were closed in protest against the lack of security.

2)January 20, 1976
Damour massacre
Avenging the massacre of Karantina by Christian forces 2 days before, Palestinians and leftist Muslims attacked the Christian city of Damour, located about 20 kilometers south of Beirut, and murdered 350 civilians.

3)August 17, 1976
The Upper-Metn battle started. Over 600 shells fell on Faraya-Oyoune El Simane while Palestinians and Progressive forces continued their insane bombing of the capital.

January 6, 1978
The Begin Plan concerning the settlement of Palestinians in Lebanon made some noise.
The Lebanese reacted with firmness and indignation to the conspiracy initiated by foreign countries. According to Salim El Hoss, ‘Every project expecting the settlement of Palestinians outside of their land is rejected.’ The President of the Republic also rejected any project stipulating the permanent settlement of Palestinians in Lebanon. ‘Our country should determine itself what it is able to offer. It is unfair to solve the Palestinian question by creating a Lebanese problem. We will make every effort to let our right prevail, he said.

4)May 2, 1978
A fight opposed the UNIFL and the Palestinians. The French barrack in Tyr was bombed and the commander of the French contingent was seriously injured.

5)April 14, 1982
A general war was raging between Amal and the Palestinians. Meanwhile, the fights continued in the South and reached Beirut and its suburbs where 15 deaths were reported.

6)July 19, 1982
While Beirut was still under blockade, sporadic confrontations opposed the Israelis and the Palestinians, and innocent victims continued to fall. The President of the AUB, David Dodge, was kidnapped in the middle of the campus.

The above mentioned facts, are whether we like or not, part of our bloody history; and more recent are the rockets fired from our homeland (after the 2006 war) into our arch enemy Israel from Palestinian factions such as Ahmad Jebril. What if Israel retaliated then? What rights can you give to people who have no respect towards the well being of the people of their host country? Would you give, let alone accept, into your own home someone who raises his children on hate (and teach him at a young age how to use weapons) towards “some” of your fellow citizens? Please do not even attempt to reply with Sabra and Chatila, for I have seen firsthand what the PLO, Fath and Al Sa3ika did to fellow Lebanese (before Sabra and Chatila), including to those who now are the “prince valiant” to the Palestinian cause (Iztaz included).

Walid Beyk, sorry! Go suck on an egg. “Atfal Al hijara” go free Palestine, but not from my country!

N.B: For a comprehensive list of events from 1974 to 1990 visit: 111101

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June 24, 2010 - Posted by | Politics | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

13 Comments »

  1. moi je dirais ok des droits bien sur, mais des devoirs aussi!

    Comment by mc | June 26, 2010

  2. @Mc, Moi je dis NON for the simple fact that they have a lot to do before I can even begin to trust them. As far as I am concerned this cause of theirs is no longer mine. Non merci j’ai deja paye et meme tres “chaire”.
    Put them in busses give them each un grand sac de galets, open the Fatima gate kick them out and let them free Palestine.

    Comment by marillionlb | June 26, 2010

  3. what makes me angry is that we (lebanese) always ask for the human rights of our offenders and forget the rights of our civilians ,….
    how can we defend palestinians rights who does the most hateful and insulting practices to lebanese people, they pay no taxes, electricity, water…and they rob, kill, hate us and have built closed military refugess/cities inside our country….and they always play it innocent

    Comment by darinerachkidy | July 14, 2010

  4. @Darine,

    I do agree with you, I much rather the government spends time and effort improving the quality of life of it’s own citizens first. As far as I am concerned I still cannot trust the Palestians we have in camps, nor am I assured of their true intentions.

    Comment by marillionlb | July 14, 2010

  5. ur blog made me watch the news last night for the 1st time in months, i have been on a strike coz i was fed up with lies and illusions..
    i don’t think we can do anything about this unbearable and unjustified palestinian right legislation…
    but one surprising fact…:is how lebanese government can be so efficient and prompt when a law is of her interest whereas she can willingly wait for years to elect a president or vote for an essential law….
    a final word, that i watched our politician yesterday in a press conference asking/begging for a delay to finalize the (compulsary) law …asking to be excused for this inconvenience…what a shame!!!!

    Comment by darinerachkidy | July 15, 2010

  6. I think we just need to realize a lot of people have been screwed over. And the Lebanese the most. I think we should give them rights because it’s the human thing to do … but I don’t think this means they should be able to run freely. The problem in Lebanon is everybody is doing something that makes them happy and there are no laws in place and that are harshly taken up to ensure the government has the final say .

    Comment by mariam | July 31, 2010

  7. @Mariam, in theory I do agree that they are entitled to a decent way of life, a roof over their heads, work opportunities, education….etc Some of those “rights” are provided to them by the UN but are not used or abused. Many in the camps rather teach their children how to fight of make them work instead of sending them to schools (freely provided by the UN). Still I cannot trust those who harbor criminals and terrorists, and once tried to take over my country killing tens of thousands of Lebanese. I am still (the state of Lebanon) allowed to enter their camps. Let all the other Arab nations divide them between them. I have nothing to give to them!

    Comment by marillionlb | July 31, 2010

  8. So by Marillion’s logic, the U.S. should no longer accept Lebanese immigrants. As for those that have already made it in, they should take them to Detroit and throw them in the river so they could swim across to Canada. Afterall, why would the U.S. harbor criminals and terrorists that took part in 9/11 and killed hundreds of Marines? Why would the U.S. accept the racist, disingenous, and hateful Lebanese??

    Comment by A Purple Monkey | August 10, 2010

  9. @ Purple Monkey, Somehow I do not think that your comparason is a just one. Lebanese immigrants in the US do not harbor criminals in their camps and I do not recall them ever attempting to create the “State of Lebanon” in let’s say New Jersey. I admit to having my own personal feelings with regards to the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon mainly because I have live the Lebanese war and was old enough to see and comprehend what was going on.
    As I said this is my take on the issue and all views are are arguments are welcome; but somehow the mistrust issue will not fade away.

    Comment by marillionlb | August 10, 2010

  10. Marillion I have taken issue with your post because of the generalizations you used and their similarity to those made by certain American circles. Lebanese people do harbor terrorists and criminals, and have caused mayhem in all continents of the world.
    As you have mentioned, your position towards this issue is largely based on personal and sentimental reasons. That I can accept, but one cannot claim that withholding rights from Palestinian refugees is a reasonable policy.

    Comment by A Purple Monkey | August 10, 2010

  11. No it is not a reasonable policy and it is a personnal one, I admit to that. I still have some scares from the war which did not heal (not too many fortunatly). I very much doubt that in any country of the world Lebanese have organized terrorist camps and they are still allowed to resided there. Imagine if a bunch of Syrians (just for agument sake) living in a Lebanese “camp” in the US slaughtered 4 sleeping US marines and then engaged in a 33 day war against the US army; what would the reaction be? or is it onl;y because the Palestinians saw their land taken away from them that they are allowed certain liberties? The day the Palestinians open their camps to the LAF, surrender their weapons and all wanted criminals, I will feel better about having so many of them in Lebanon. Why are the Palestinians still not very welcomed in other gulf countries (ie Saudi, Kuwait, Abou Dhabi…..). Didn’t the King of Jordan also have a problem with them at one stage and acted swiftly and harshly? Didn’t Saudi in the seventies have a problem as well and so did Kuwait? The image of the Palestinians is tarnished in many corners of this world and not much has been made yet to improve oin it, certainly not hamas !

    Comment by marillionlb | August 11, 2010

  12. I agree with you wholeheartedly!

    Comment by The Wanderer | June 15, 2013

  13. Hello Marillionlb.
    je suis archiviste documentaliste et je travaille actuellement sur un projet de film concernant les massacres perpétrés à Damour en 1976. Je vois sur votre blog certaines photos et j’aurai voulu connaitre leur sources + Savoir s’il était possible de les utiliser dans notre projet?
    D’avance, je vous remercie pour votre aide,

    Comment by isabelle | July 14, 2016


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